[Mikkel Paulson]

Bear in mind that even if our negotiations go perfectly on the 22nd we will have a maximum of 8 minutes per network allocated to us, so sixteen 30-second spots. That's not a lot spread over a 36-day election. All promotion that we air will have to be self-contained, direct, and clear.

And yes, I agree that attack ads will get us nowhere. We would, however, be well-served to refer to bills C-60, C-61, and C-32.

[Concerned Citizen]

And yes, I agree that attack ads will get us nowhere. We would, however, be well-served to refer to bills C-60, C-61, and C-32.

Exactly, don't attack the person. Attack the bad legislation

[Anthony]

The Canada Elections Act gives us a minimum of 2 minutes' free advertising time per network, so long as we express interest in using it. We're also eligible to purchase up to an additional 6 minutes, again dependent on our interest/ability.
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This rule from election Canada regarding advertising on networking is completely bullwark - why the devil does Election Canada decides advertising of political party on youtube? Especially if you want to advertise, you need to purchase minutes?

It doesn't make sense, its draconian! Advertising parties on youtube should be free just like all other videos on youtube.

[RDesroches]

Hey, I was thinking it might be a good idea to start separate threads for different campaigns (i.e Television, Internet, Print, Radio and Face to Face). With so many different things to cover, this one thread could could very cluttered and it would be difficult to cover things.

Also, I think that we should come up with a pamphlet informing people who we are and what we stand for, once we have a pamphlet we can create street teams to go to public places like university campuses, downtown areas etc. to interact with the public and get more people involved.

[Mike Bleskie]

The Canada Elections Act gives us a minimum of 2 minutes' free advertising time per network, so long as we express interest in using it. We're also eligible to purchase up to an additional 6 minutes, again dependent on our interest/ability.
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This rule from election Canada regarding advertising on networking is completely bullwark - why the devil does Election Canada decides advertising of political party on youtube? Especially if you want to advertise, you need to purchase minutes?

It doesn't make sense, its draconian! Advertising parties on youtube should be free just like all other videos on youtube.

This isn't about Youtube, this is network TV we're talking about. Global, CTV, CBC. Youtube is uncontrolled.

[Anthony]

This isn't about Youtube, this is network TV we're talking about. Global, CTV, CBC. Youtube is uncontrolled.

Opps sorry! my bad -.-

When I hear the word "network" I assume it has to do with all media and social-networking site

* embarrass*

[Anthony]

To that end, I suggest running a YouTube competition for 30-second advertisements, the winning products to be aired on TV and properly credited.

*scene take place in a sunny park with birds chirping, trees swaying int he wind, kites being flown, laugher can be heard from kids playing in the sandbox*
A teenager walk through the park on the stone walkway while holding his skateboard and listening to his favourite tunes on his ipod.
The kid sat on the park bench.
Suddenly 2-3 tall guys in dark suit approach from behind startling the teenager and said they were from the RCMP.
They demanded him to hand-over his ipod for "national security reasons".
The check out his ipod and found he has been copying music 'illegally' (despite the fact he copy the music from the original CD he bought at the store into his ipod).
The three dark men then led the boy to his parent's house and later on in the court room. The Judge slam his gravel and slap them with a $300,000 fine plus 6 months in prison for the boy. The boy looks down and frown

Eventually in prison, the boy learns from the real criminals - and become a criminal himself when he gets out after 6 months and wreck havoc on society (drugs, murder, arson, etc), all because of the government clampdown on property rights.

-The end

(I add the last part was a fast-forward mode).

[Mike Bleskie]

I liked the previous suggestion of avoiding Big Brother/1984/BNW style ads, or any real usage of such motifs. A few examples of good advertisements used:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA1RDyN7JTg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ux4uhxdewU

Another suggestion for an in-house video, I always envisioned a video made in the style of the second video, done with the song "Declare Independence" by Bjork. This wouldn't be for TV, this would just be for general Youtube video.

[Concerned Citizen]

Nice one Anthony but going by what the RCMP say they'd rather not deal with anything but commercial copyright infringement because everything else is a waste of manpower.

Perhaps if we can get one of the RCMP big wigs on camera saying that and use it

[Mikkel Paulson]

Interesting concept, but I don't think it'd fit in a 30-second slot...

Anthony and Mike, you guys really have to work out how to use [quote] tags...

[Mike Bleskie]

That was my first error with it, bug off >_>

[Anthony]

Interesting concept, but I don't think it'd fit in a 30-second slot...

Anthony and Mike, you guys really have to work out how to use [quote] tags...

It could fit in 30 sec, I can envision the whole thing in 30 seconds with the PPCA title and short description within 10 seconds.
The image could be quick gentle movement:

The boy could walk (with park in background) and sit on the bench with the guys showing up all in 10 seconds, the police at boy's house with his mother crying and father arguing (park in background would fade to his house), the boy face remain on the screen while the house background faded to the images of the court - the face of the boy fade as the giant wooden hammer appears and slam on the round wooden thing in front him as messages appear "$300,000" fine "6 months in prison". All that in additional 13 seconds.

Then it would all fade black while the bold "PPCA" and some short message for the next 7 seconds.

I know my spelling is awkward, but I wanted to get it all down before I forget.
Of course, I am unrealistically optimistic of doing everything in 30 seconds.  But at least its the thoughts that count.

By the way, whats wrong with my quote tag-hing, whatever it is?

[Mikkel Paulson]

You forgot to close it. Just messing with you, it's still readable. Just makes it look like I said the whole thing.

Here's another idea: "You wouldn't steal billions of dollars from musicians. You wouldn't write restrictive contracts that exploit someone else's creativity. You wouldn't profit unfairly for decades after the musician dies. But you'd share music, find new bands, and support the musicians you love. Who are the real criminals?"

[Anthony]

You forgot to close it. Just messing with you, it's still readable. Just makes it look like I said the whole thing.

Here's another idea: "You wouldn't steal billions of dollars from musicians. You wouldn't write restrictive contracts that exploit someone else's creativity. You wouldn't profit unfairly for decades after the musician dies. But you'd share music, find new bands, and support the musicians you love. Who are the real criminals?"

Thats a pretty soft messages with whip cream and a cherry on top

[btrower]

Re: what info from old Forum -- all of the threads I was in, but there was one in particular with lots of good ideas that has vanished. I had an iffy feeling about putting stuff on the forum -- should have put it on the wiki. I would edit stuff (at least some of the info I posted) and put it up on the wiki.