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« on: July 18, 2010, 09:10:03 PM »

Since our new voting systems require us to have meeting agendas solidified one week in advance of a general meeting, I thought I'd get a jump on the August meeting. Please post here if there are any further motions to add.

Election of Mikkel Paulson for Candidate in Edmonton Centre
Zblewski to move that the report of the Select Committee on Platform Information be read and concurred in
psema4 to move that the report of the Select Committee on Electoral Strategy be read and concurred in
MikkelPaulson to move that the provided information regarding the Pirate Party of Canada shall be changed, effective immediately.
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2010, 05:12:55 PM »

I think the committee situation is sorted now, so I'm not going to add any more committee motions than the two listed there. Sorry to waste so much time on it at the last meeting. I know that things dragged on quite a bit.
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2010, 06:30:53 PM »

The report of the Select Committee on Electoral Strategy is as follows:

We recommend the following ridings to target in the next general election:

Ottawa Centre
Vancouver Centre
Edmonton Centre

These where selected using the following criteria:

1. Ridings with the most members, which would be ridings with the most volunteers available and likely where there are a high number of votes interested in our issues.
2. Ridings that where not close in the last election, to avoid being swamped by high activity from other parties and so that we don't draw votes away from a party that is more sympathetic to our issues, giving the advantage to a party that isn't. This is why Edmonton - Strathcona and Kitchener - Waterloo where not included.
3. Ridings in cities where there is an active membership. Ridings from Toronto and Montreal where not included because of low activity in those cities.

Should members from Toronto become more active, we recommend targeting Trinity - Spadina. Should members from Montreal become more active, we recommend targeting Laurier - Sainte-Marie.

The by-election for Winnipeg North must be called before the middle of October (unless there is a general election called before then, which is a distinct possibility). Having a candidate in that by-election would be highly beneficial because the party will be officially registered. That will increase our legitimacy and allow the party to give tax receipts for donations which will allow donors to take advantage of Canada's generous tax credits for political donations.

The party should immediately put out a call for a candidate, official agent and volunteers from the Winnipeg area to prepare the campaign. If a candidate cannot be found, the leader, once elected, can step in as the candidate. Once a candidate has been selected the party should provide the materials the volunteers needed to start collecting signatures, such as a pamphlet about the party to hand out.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2010, 07:10:17 PM »

As of this meeting, several issues have been discussed by the Select Committee on Platform Information, some of which did not take off, some were discussed heavily. Overall, progress has been made on creating official stances on issues surrounding the party's goals, but there is still work to be done before the party can have a completed platform.

Copyright is the first issue under discussion. There appears to be a conclusion that no matter what, copyright should not last more than 15 years. However, there are two points of contention. The first is whether there should be a system of registering copyright, with several against this idea, and others in favour. Those who are in favour mostly prefer that the term of length for copyright should be 5 years without registration, 10 years with registration, although Jake Daynes preferred 5 years with manditory registration, and an added renewal, totalling 10 years. Those against registration tend to favour a term of copyright ranging from 10-15 years. The second point is that of a levy, with there being the option of having no levy, or a levy on residential access, to go to arts programs in some way. DRM appears to be something all is against, but for the other two areas, a vote will likely be required after a little more discussion.

Next is Open Access and Transparent Government.  Crown Copyright was the first issue to get attention, with most feeling that its existence is still needed in order to maintain some limited operations, such as examinations, though for many other general uses, Crown Copyright was seen as something that wasn't really needed. Secondly, it was mostly agreed that reforms to Freedom of Information (FOI) requests is needed, though in moderation. Presley Perswain noted the current government's strict information control, with Jake Daynes adding that completely free FOI requestss could lead to such situations as in Ontario, when expelled member Joe Baptista spammed such requests to the office of the Attorney General of Ontario. The remaining point of contention was that of proactive disclosure through some sort of agency, with Mikkel Paulson suggesting an independant group handling FOI requests, with Jake Daynes saying that such an organization already exists, and that a "plan B" is required.

-For patents, the general term agreed to is five years. Software patents are seen as of little value, and it has been pretty much been consensus to scrap incidental patent infringement, gene patents and patents on living things, though there is still a little bit of debate on that. Only smaller details remain to smooth out.

Other items included so far:

- There is little to no opposition over Net Neutrality, but it is my opinion that when we inevitably add it to the platform, that we expand on the belief.

-Most people are for the idea of including digital sovereignty into the platform, as long as it's well explained.

-There is a split of opinion over electoral reform and the discussion of mixed-member proportional elections. There are three possibilities open, one is to have a change to a new method of election as an election point, one is to have it as a 'sleeper issue' and not publicly advocate it while still supporting it, and the last is to not support it. More discussion and possibly a vote is needed to resolve this.

-Nationalization of telecom may possibly be scrapped if there is no real cosensus on the issue, more discussion is still needed.

Minor issues that recieved little attention from platform discussion included:

-Geographic Indication (trademarking of product names based on location produced)

-End-User Liscence Agreements

-Privacy (though comments were made on asking what we need to share and not on what we can hide, and locking up the right to personal information against websites, etc.)

-Trademarks (mostly status quo, though some gripes over the Olympic Games' uses).

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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2010, 07:45:07 PM »

The meeting has been postponed due to technical difficulties. An updated time will be posted shortly, with the rescheduled meeting likely to take place early next week.
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2010, 05:47:44 AM »


The email to notify of the change of the meeting specified the wrong date...  Monday, August 28th doesn't exist, just FYI.

Monday, August 23,
Monday, August 30, or
Saturday, August 28.

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In order to accomodate for the meeting and debate on Monday, the voting period will be extended to the end of Monday, August 28.

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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2010, 02:21:19 PM »

Meeting is Monday August 23rd
End of voting is Monday August 30th.
And I've fixed the spelling of accommodate in the erratum email.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2010, 04:59:24 PM »

I have a web proxy running if anyone needs it. Just PM me and I'll give you the URL.

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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2010, 12:40:20 AM »

The results of the votes taken at the meeting are as follows:

Election of Mikkel Paulson for Candidate in Edmonton Centre
(conducted by secret ballot with a 2/3 majority required)
Yea: 145
Nay: 5
Abstain: 14
The motion passed.

Zblewski moved that the report of the Select Committee on Platform Information be read and concurred in
Wasme raised a point of order that the committee's report was not duly approved. After reviewing the matter, the Chair ruled that the matter be referred back to the committee for further consideration.
The motion was deferred.

psema4 moved that the report of the Select Committee on Electoral Strategy be read and concurred in
Yea: 121
Nay: 6
Abstain: 36
The motion passed.

MikkelPaulson moved that the provided information regarding the Pirate Party of Canada shall be changed, effective immediately
Yea: 122
Nay: 6
Abstain: 33
The motion passed.
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